But Will It Get a .1 Update to Fix the Soggy Center?
Vice says that sources claim that Apple's pizza is very good:
“I’m a pizza lover, I literally eat pizza on every city I visit, I can say it was a good pizza, the sauce was great. The cheese was melted perfectly and I don’t know which blends they used but it was rich and delicious,” Rodriguez said. “I’m a huge Apple fan and eating pizza at Apple’s HQ was a dream come true for me.”
The last time I had pizza at Apple was back in 2003. I'll have to worm my way in next time I'm in town to get an update on the latest pies.
Not So Secret Anymore
Food Insider video: LA's Secret Parking Lot Pizza.
Eleodoro Lopez found a liquor store that would let him park in its lot and started selling pizza out of it a few months ago. Now he's gaining recognition for selling delicious Neapolitan-style pies for $10 each in Silver Lake.
June 26, 2019
For the past six months or so, Shepherd's Grain High Gluten flour has been my go to for making pizzas and bread. Even though it's malted (ie- has a bit of barley in it which will make it brown faster) it performs very well in my Roccbox. And it's 1/3 the cost of getting a bag of high gluten 00 from Central Milling shipped to me, so it's easier to justify using it more. (I still use the CM00 to feed my starter however).
The SG flour has been great. And recently it seems to perform way better than previous purchases (I've been using it off and on for a number of years, mostly for bread making and NY style pizzas). I just attributed this to the amazing grains that the state of Washington has been putting out recently.
My most recent purchase was getting low so I picked up a new 50 lb. bag and made some pizza dough with it.
Using the exact same formula from a week ago (with 10% whole wheat), the dough came super sticky after 7 minutes in the mixer.
Well crap. Maybe I messed up? I'm pretty sure I didn't. That's OK, it's a new bag and I'll just roll with it and see what happens. Next is the autolyse phase, then a knead and bulk raise, and I'll use it the next day like normal.
So that's what I did, and it still felt a bit funky and sticky the next day when I broke it up into individual balls. Hrm.
And when cooked, the first pizza came out with same raw dough in the crust which is super gross when you bite into it.
Well crap. The last time this happened was a number of years ago, and with the exact same flour. Could it be that the previous bag was just an anomaly? Some magical bag of flour that I'll never again experience?
Sounds like I need to run some tests.
So two days ago I made a new batch of dough with 100% SG high gluten and let the mixer go for about 10 minutes. It came out a bit sticky again where the previous bag wasn't.
Fine, I'll fold it a couple of times before a 40 minute autolyse, and then fold and knead it again after that.
This actually helped improve the texture of the dough quite a bit, so I waited another 40-60 minutes before folding it more, then put it back in a container till later that night (about 10 hrs later), at which point I split it up in to individual balls as the plan was to cook a pie for lunch the next day.
When I opened up the proofing container the next day the dough was pretty flat and looked generally under-proofed. This happens sometimes, and isn't usually a worry- but in this case the dough was super sticky again and hard to get out of the container. The pizza made from it was fine though. Nothing amazing, but not bad.
I had three more dough balls to use, but I wanted to see how they would behave after another 24 hours. So I re-balled the dough (and they felt pretty good- usually the gluten starts to give out at this point and it's harder to keep the dough together) and stuck them in a proofing container. But instead of keeping it in the kitchen where things have been a little warmer (hello summer) I put it on the floor of my garage, where it's generally cooler.
Then today I checked on the dough expecting to to be collapsed and holy crap would you look at this:
two day proof of SG HG flour
It's not the greatest picture, but it's a perfectly raised dough ball that was twice as tall as the previous day. And it felt great. And the pizza it made… oh my.
It was amazing
Is there a moral here? No, but maybe a lesson. Different bags of the same flour can be different. What causes this? I don't know, but my educated guess is that the time of year in which the wheat was cut and milled makes a difference. I don't remember exactly when I bought the previous bag, but I think it was this past winter sometime.
So for this current bag of flour, a longer proof with more folding is necessary for the best pizza.
I'm going to start cataloging the bags of flour, when they were bought, and which grower they came from (which you can do with Shepherd's Grain! The new bag was from either David & Margaret Dobbins or Blake & Kasey Wolf). I'm also going to buy another bag in about 3 months to see what that's like.
I still have some of the dough from the previous bag, which I want to use for a little science experiment. Maybe I'll make two batches from the same formula and see what happens.
Update from the morning: The dough raised more, and seemed to be in good form, but it's gluten structure was shot. So while a pizza could have been made from it, it would have been pretty hard to do.
June 19, 2019
NPR: Naples Rolls Out A Fine-Tuned Dough, And The New 'Cloud Pizza' Is Born.
"The new flour is called Nuvola (Italian for "cloud"). To harvest it, the combines aren't sent into fields until rainy season, late in the game, so the grains are very mature and rustic, almost aged. Antimo Caputo, the third-generation CEO of the flour producer, likens it to passito, a raisin wine. The chemical effect, he said, is that the grain is higher in fiber, with more bran, minerals, germ, protein and amylase, a sugar enzyme that allows a crème brûlée sense of character, deeply charred but not bitter.
"Broadly, the maturation enables faster natural fermentation, although the dough needs roughly 24 hours of proofing (mass-market pizza companies, like Domino's, turbo-boost their fermentation for same-day results with added sugar, an accelerant for yeast.) A lactic acid buildup in Nuvola's natural fermentation process gives the end product some creaminess. It notably has no need for potassium bromate, a carcinogen that is used in the U.S. but is banned in Canada, China, the European Union and many other nations (it is regulated in California).
"And, whereas most pizza doughs have a hydration point of 62, Nuvola's higher concentration of soluble starch allows for a wider hydration range, as high as 100, creating a charred, crispier, puffier, lighter crust that is melty, more digestible and yields a more bouncy, chewy cornicione (pizza-speak for the pie's raised rim)."
I've not tried Caputo's Nuvola flour yet, but I'm eager to get my hands on it to see what the fuss is about.
I gave up on Caputo years ago, as the quality of their flour didn't seem to be as good as domestic producers. I'm not the only one either- I've heard of other pizza restraunts and makers dropping it and going with other brands.
And you don't need Nuvola to get big puffy crusts. Anthony Mangieri has been doing this for years. All you need is good flour, practice, and leaving enough room on the edges for the dough to expand. It's fun to do and makes a pretty pizza, but it's also a lot of wasted space that could be used for toppings.
Thanks to Vincent Angeloni for the link.
Famous Napoli Pizza Restruant Comes to the US
da Michele is opening up in LA
“The team from the original da Michele came out to quality-test in the last few weeks to ensure the proprietary name, techniques, and recipe are consistent. And though pizzas are the star, an entirely separate menu with coastal Italian dishes by chef Michele Rubini will serve grilled octopus with Sicilian caponata, handmade pastas like linguini with lobster, and grilled branzino.
“Zimone not only designed the space, but handcrafted much of the 3,000 square foot interior himself, which also contains a fireplace, lounge, and tree-encased front patio. Beer and wine will be available until proper alcohol permits are approved, and the restaurant plans to be open for lunch and dinner. And with the expansive but seemingly cozy patio, Antica Pizzeria will be a stunning spot to enjoy a meal alfresco when the weather warms up.”
This place looks pretty amazing. I wonder how much a pizza is going to cost.
And there's a little video up on YouTube about the new place. It's a little over the top, but you get a good sense of their baking process.
Making Perfect Pizza Video Series
What Makes the Perfect Pizza?
The Bon Appétit Test Kitchen is on a quest for the perfect pizza.
I've watched the prolog episode, and it looks to be at least entertaining. (I have thoughts about the metal peel they tried to slide under pizza though, that felt like a setup).
Link via Sean Harding.
April 22, 2019
Anthony Mangieri on The Moment Podcast
"Anthony Mangieri, Una Pizza Napoletana pizza genius, and all around life genius, on how obsession fuels his work."
I really enjoyed this interview. It was more about Anthony and how he entered the business and life and all that, rather than specifics about pizza making. But it's certainly worth a listen if you are into pizza making at all.